Tamman Best of Slack March 2022
In this first video of many, Tamman’s Collin and Liza walk us through the top Slack posts in our workspace for the month of March 2022. Much discourse was had around film in the weeks leading up to the Oscars, and our Philly sports fans chimed in on current events in that arena, or stadium in this case. We also touch on some accessibility issues that our a11y focused team love to call out.
Collin:
Hey, everybody. It is Collin with Tamman Inc. and today I am joined by—
Liza:
Liza from Tamman Inc.
Collin:
We are going to be doing something new. Also, a little bit late. Today we’re going to be going through the best of Tamman’s Slack channel for March 2022. The reason we’re doing this is, collectively, we all sort of felt like in this new post workplace work life we kind of miss some of the quirky banter that we would hear around the office space. We gathered up some of the culture-ish items that were going on in our Slack. These are the ones that we thought were the best. Liza, do you want to take it away?
Liza:
I do. Thanks for asking. We’re going to start out with a question that was originally from our little channel that we had for the Oscars when they were going on. We had a lot of cool little Oscars activities related. One of those came in the form of this question from Amy, which is, “Describe a movie plot poorly.” She says, “I’ll start. A man randomly talks to strangers at a bus stop.” Collin, do you have any idea what movie plot she is poorly describing there?
Collin:
I don’t know, but life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re going to get.
Liza:
What a random thing to say unrelated to anything else.
Collin:
I know. Alright. Theresa said, “A daughter searches for her dad before she’s married, and they sing and dance through the whole movie.” That doesn’t sound familiar to me, but I know that Taken with Liam Neeson is a movie about a daughter and a dad. Do you think that’s it?
Liza:
That might be it because I’ll tell you I haven’t seen Taken or the movie I think this might be related to, but something that helped me as a little clue was that one of my coworkers—also Collin’s coworker—his name is Bill. He replied to this comment by Teresa. He is frequently referencing music from a certain band. I know that this band—it’s like, a lot of their music is in this movie. Not sure what it’s about. Possible it’s a daughter dad thing happening, but I have kind of an idea. If anyone knows, maybe they’ll be kind enough to put it in the comments for us. Or if you can think of another movie that’s also being poorly described, we’ll accept that too. There’s not really a wrong answer.
Collin:
Now that you mentioned the thing about the band, it’s obvious that it’s Armageddon. Bruce Willis, dad. Liv Tyler, daughter. Sing and dance.
Liza:
Don’t want to close my eyes.
Collin:
Yes, there you go. Aerosmith.
Liza:
Don’t want to fall asleep. You know, Collin, some people, when you work with them, they just exponentially make you a better worker, and I’m feeling a lot of those feelings about you right now.
Collin:
Right, right, right. I will say that Deep Impact was the superior meteor movie of 1990-whatever with Elijah Wood.
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Liza:
Can you describe the plot poorly for someone who maybe hasn’t seen it and never will?
Collin:
A young Frodo Baggins and his crush discover a comet hurdling towards Earth. They try to escape, but the government will only put Elijah Wood’s family in the underground bunker because probably sexism. He instead decides to go save the girl and I think they all die in a fiery end. Don’t quote me. Watch the trailer. I don’t know.
Liza:
A little spoiler alert, but I’m definitely hooked. I will be renting.
Collin:
So, next up. You want to go?
Liza:
Sure. It looks like this next one’s from Devin. He says, “An Italian American family experiences some interpersonal disagreement while trying to grow the family business.” What do you think that could be?
Collin:
I’ve got a feeling that if it’s a more recent film, it’s got something to do with gabagool or perhaps expensive bags, luxury goods. Those are my two guesses just from the more recent stable of movies out there.
Liza:
That seems like a good duo of guesses. I know Devin is one of our younger members of our staff because he’s always talking about things that seem hip and cool, but I’m not really sure what they are. I assume this is one of those things. I will take this moment to toot my own horn because I did add a gabagool emoji to our work Slack. So, kind of tying that in here in place of me actually knowing anything about this film. Thank you for your guess. It’s the only relative one here.
Collin:
I would like to just take a moment to give a shoutout to Liza for—as our good friend, Marty, would call her, the emoji queen of Slack. She always adds cool emojis, including my personal favorite, the Baja Blast.
Liza:
Yes. If you haven’t had a Baja Blast from your local Taco Bell or some sort of international Taco Bell that you have access to, we’d recommend hitting one up. It makes a great emoji. The color, the emotion behind it. It’s great.
Collin:
Alright, moving on. Brandon said, “A Philadelphia resident uses recreational activities to instill confidence in himself, so he can ask out his best friend’s sister.” I’ve got no guesses on this one. I have no idea.
Liza:
I don’t either since it’s fitting my vibe of me not having seen any of these films. But it just crossed my mind when I think of a movie about a Philadelphia resident, that maybe it’s Rocky. Maybe it’s Rocky. Was he into his best friend’s sister? I don’t know. Wait, Silver Linings Playbook? Now I’m just thinking about slightly sportsy movies that are from Philadelphia.
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Collin:
That could be it. I don’t know. I don’t know.
Liza:
It seems like maybe Bill knows and maybe Amy knows because they replied. I’ll kind of have to go back and ask them, unless anyone feels like they know the answer and they want to let us know in a kind and gentle way. Until then, I can read this next one from James. “Farm boy is radicalized by his cultist neighbor and destroys a military installation.” I don’t think I’ve seen this. Do you have any thoughts?
Collin:
I think that it’s definitely what I would expect from James, for sure. However, I really don’t know. I don’t know.
Liza:
James has good taste, and this is a good description. I’ll note that someone has added the little laughing with tears in my eyes emoji. I think this one was probably a hit. It has six replies, so the more cultured members of our Tamman team at least gave that a good guess. I think it was pretty—it’s like some Smallville type of situation but the movie version, which I don’t recommend watching if it exists.
Collin:
Smallville, Smallville. Alright, so this next one from Brian. I’m going to do a little thing here. I’m going to channel my inner ‘90s, 2000s DVD/VHS advertisement guy. Alright. “Prison, friendship, poster, freedom.” Yeah, I’ve got no guesses on this one, but it definitely sounds very actiony.
Liza:
Yeah, I feel like my guesses are being biased by the quality performance that you just gave, which was high. I think I remember clicking on the replies to this, which there are a few, and there were various prison movies that I hadn’t seen any of but sounded like they’d be pretty character building and that I’m missing out by not having seen them. Yeah, not sure. We should leave this up to the commenters as well.
Collin:
My guess actually might be something to do with Morgan Freeman. Based on my little skit I did earlier in that time period. But that’s all I’ve got.
Liza:
That’s a good connection that you made in your brain. At least a good—also, connecting it with, yeah, someone doing a good readout of something. It’s a quality guess. Brandon comes in with another one. He says, “There’s a bus that had to speed around a city, keeping its speed over 50. If its speed dropped, it would explode.” I think it was called The Bus that Couldn’t Slow Down. Now red letter day for me and Tamman as a whole, I’ve seen this movie. What about you?
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Collin:
I have. It was Keanu Reeves, Sandra Bullock. I think it was called Don’t Slow Down.
Liza:
OK. Very good guess. I see there’s a few replies here. I’m sure one of them was you with that gem. Good movie. If you have two hours to kill on a day that it’s raining and you want to see a sweaty Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves, you better go ahead. This is a suggestion from me. Maybe Tamman endorses it. Not sure. The Bus that Couldn’t Slow Down, it’s probably on a streaming service.
Collin:
Did you know that there was a sequel that involved boats, and it was terrible?
Liza:
I think I thought there was a Speed 2, but I did not know anything about it. That seems cool. I’m kind of into water in a movie, but you don’t recommend it.
Collin:
I can’t actually remember. That was, like, way too long ago.
Liza:
OK.
Collin:
With the movies out of the way, I think we’ll go ahead and move on to the next one, which is a question of the day from Alejandra. If you could combine two animals to create the perfect pet, what would they be? And do you want to go ahead and tackle our response to that question?
Liza:
Sure. So, this came from our catalyst and Chief of Staff, Marty. He went the succinct route. He said, “I’ve really struggled with this question—dot, dot, dot. I want the softness of a bunny, the independence of a cat—” That’s two right there, ladies and gentlemen and folks and sisters and misters and brothers. Then he continues on and says, “The loyalty of a dog, the coolness of a snake, the smarts of a dolphin, the ancestral memory/telepathy of an elephant, the sweet sounds of non-annoying birds, the sheer awesomeness of a mongoose like ‘Rikki-Tikki-Tavi,’ the utility of a horse—dot, dot, dot. OK, I’m going with—dot, dot, dot—a mini, fluffy dog, dolphin.” When you hear all of that over the 15 minutes it takes to ingest it, what do you feel?
Collin:
Like it’s some sort of unspeakable chimera or eldritch abomination.
Liza:
I was going to say almost exactly the same thing. It’s a lot, but it’s from a very particular man who seems like he knows what he wants and it’s impossible. That’s always good for the Chief of Staff of your company, but I appreciated this answer. It’s well thought out and it’s well constructed, which is what I completely expect from Marty, at least in our work Slack.
Collin:
One of the Slack greatest.
Liza:
It is. You can tell he really cares, which is good.
[00:12:00]
Collin:
Alrighty. Next up from Amy once again, “Sometimes music is just as important of a character as the people in the film. Without naming a musical, name a movie where a song took center stage or else a movie where the music really took the movie over the edge.”
Liza:
Well, our first answer also short and sweet comes from James. He says, “Annihilation.” Another film—I love it, but I’ve never seen it.
Collin:
Well, I haven’t seen it either, but Annihilation sounds pretty metal, and metal is music, right?
Liza:
You’re right. I hadn’t even thought of that. Thanks for connecting that for me. What does Carl say?
Collin:
Carl chimed in with a very excellent suggestion, “Almost Famous. Cameron Crowe is brilliant at music placement in a scene,” and I would be hard-pressed to argue with him on that.
Liza:
I would also be hard-pressed. Not having seen the movie, I can’t really come from any standpoint of knowledge, but I do know that it’s a very musical film. I’m inclined to agree. Amy comes in to answer her own question, which is always helpful. She says, “That time when Gaga and Bradley Cooper took the stage in A Star is Born,” and she gave us a little link. Looks very cool. I have not seen this movie. You’ll be shocked and kind of offended to know, but, Collin, I heard you aren’t really a fan, but you have a special talent that’s related.
Collin:
I’ve never actually seen the film, but I’ve heard the song “Shallow” on the radio a thousand times. I must say, while trying to mimic it, I’ve gotten pretty good at nailing that one part where she, like, really just takes that note and runs with it—and I’m lying. It sounds horrible, but it’s something that happens when we’re in the car.
Liza:
Very cool. It sounds like it was inspiring those even who haven’t seen it. Sounds good.
Collin:
Alright. So, next up back on the theme of movies and Oscars. You can see that we were very focused on that in March. Amy, once again, starts off with, “Kristen Stewart is nominated for portraying Lady Diana Spencer. If your life was being made into a movie, who would you want to play the character of you?”
Liza:
Great question. Brandon jumped right in, and he said, “Kristen Stewart. OK, maybe like Bill Hader or Will Forte, but I’ll have to accept it won’t get Oscar buzz,” which is tough. Also, go with your first choice. If you want Kristen Stewart, demand Kristen Stewart because this is your life and that’s what you deserve. I think those two funny guys could do a good Brandon. What about you?
[00:15:07]
Collin:
I agree. I think he definitely had that on point. I’m excited. I get a Bill comment. Alright.
Liza:
Go for it.
Collin:
So, Bill said, “Bruce Vilanch for an Oscar or Eric Stonestreet for a SAG award, but never, and I mean never, James Corden. If it’s a Lifetime movie, I’ll probably get stuck with that weird comic book guy from The Christmas House trilogy,” and that is such a great answer. I definitely could picture Bruce Vilanch. I definitely could see it, but I agree James Corden could never give the nuance to comedy that we expect from Bill. So, I definitely think that’s a great answer.
Liza:
I agree with you. Bill definitely has a little edge that James Corden simply could never. When you’re on a major news network, you just can’t and it’s to the detriment of all the viewers. I get another Marty comment, which they’re my favorite too. He says, “The people whom I’ve been compared to the most are Eric Stoltz or Jason Bateman or a pre-Parkinson’s Michael J. Fox.” Still Michael J. Fox, will point out. Those are—I know two of those people. Seems accurate in looks.
Collin:
He also added in the end there, “If I could choose anyone though, I would probably choose Leonardo DiCaprio,” and I feel like that is a bit of a cop-out. But Jason Bateman though, I mean, Marty Byrde. It’s like right in the name, Marty, and Marty.
Liza:
Yeah? Jason goes by Marty now?
Collin:
Jason Bateman plays Marty Byrde in Ozark.
Liza:
Thank you. OK, Netflix Original?
Collin:
Yep. I just noticed that I assumed everybody saw Ozark, which is very foolish of me.
Liza:
It’s OK. It’s been suggested to me and maybe it’s time I take that suggestion if my own catalyst has a doppelganger in the film. Thank you for reading that. There was an overlay over the second part of his message. Not great for usability, is it?
Collin:
No.
Liza:
That’s a different video. I’ll jump in even though I read the last one. I’m reading this one too. It’s from Bill. He says, “Would Meredith make room for you on the door floating in the North Atlantic?”
Collin:
Wow.
Liza:
That’s a little reference to the Leonardo DiCaprio comment where Bill’s kind of being like, “Is your loved one gonna not let you just die in frozen cold ocean?”
[00:18:00]
Collin:
Bill with the zingers.
Liza:
When you ask for Leonardo DiCaprio, you’ve got to be ready to take all of the guff that comes with it because it’s not guff-free. Go ahead.
Collin:
So, next up is Sam who says, “Christina Applegate. Sorry. I know I posted a GIF, but almost immediately got annoyed by the one I chose.” Laughing till they cry emoji.
Liza:
I like that a lot. I think Christina Applegate seems very cool from all the interviews that she’s done that are not when she’s in character. So, she seems like a cool lady. Sam also seems very cool. She has a lot of very cool gardening stuff happening in her house. Applegate seems fitting. I would support it.
Collin:
Well, sounds like we need to get Sam added to the plants channel in Slack.
Liza:
Yes, we do. A little Slack plug. She followed up. OK. Asking if any of us had watched Spencer, which is what Amy was asking about in the question. She’s talking about how she watched it the other night and she found royalty and the way they lived to be very fascinating yet also terrifying. Also, just supporting and raving about Kristen Stewart and the great job that she did, which is important. Different actress. Wouldn’t want to be played by her, but still giving her props. Seems tough, lifestyle of the rich and the famous. Quick quote, Collin, from you. You’re always complaining. Anything to say about it? [inaudible 00:19:43]
Collin:
I just think that whole “Imagine” TikTok thing where the celebrities sang it last year or the year before—I can’t even remember. The pandemic’s been going on so long. I just remember that that was very tone-deaf, and I didn’t appreciate it.
Liza:
There you go. Interesting use of the word “deaf” when we’re describing something in some sort of an idiom. Interesting look rich and famous people. Thanks for the song, and we move on.
Collin:
I just feel like there’s so much more room for conversation on that, but I’ll leave it for now. Alright. Finally, Emma says, “Hm, I’m going with Kate Winslet,” and why wouldn’t you if we’ve got Leonardo DiCaprio?
Liza:
Very good point. People were kind of using each other’s answers as inspiration, which is nice. Kate Winslet seems very—a classic pick. We’ve got a lot of Slack channel play with Mare of Easttown that was out earlier because we have some people local to the area where that was filmed. Just a great pick. A safe pick some would say, but nothing bad to say about it.
[00:21:00]
Collin:
Alright. So, who would you pick to play Liza?
Liza:
Well, super good question. The main comment I get is from my mother, and she said, “You know who really reminds me of you is Emily Blunt.” I was like, “OK. Rockin it.” Then I pressed her a little bit. Didn’t really have to press her that much because she was just extremely forthcoming with the information. She was like, “Well, no. Now that I think of it, it’s just that you both kind of run really awkwardly.” I was like, “You know, I hope if there’s a movie about my life, it’s going to include a lot of running.” So, might as well. I’ll take it. If she can do this whatever accent this is, the job is yours. What about you and why is it the guy who plays Alaric Saltzman from the Vampire Diaries.
Collin:
You know? I’ve never seen the Vampire Diaries, so I can’t answer. Don’t know who that is, but if I had to say, probably Matt Damon or Leonardo DiCaprio. Not because I think they look like me. I actually vehemently disagree with all of that, but it is the feedback that I’ve always gotten from coworkers, friends, or the guy who works at the QuickChek in Dayton, New Jersey on Route 130.
Liza:
Shoutout to that guy at the QuickChek. You’re making Collin feel like a superstar. Rightfully so. Good answers. What is this next one? Is this a homemade t-shirt design?
Collin:
It appears that Mark got a homemade t-shirt from his wife.
Liza:
And it looks to be a very cool and stylized outline of all of the hair on James Harden’s face. It’s very cool.
Collin:
Yep.
Liza:
Sideways, which is why I’ve kind of got my head cocked in like a looking off into the beautiful distance.
Collin:
You know, it almost looks like the hair is made of denim, but I digress. It had two replies. One said, “It’s going to be a great game tonight.”
Liza:
That’s from Charles, resident Sixers fan with PH. It was 16 days ago. Maybe earlier. I can’t remember quite how the game went that night, but girl, we’re excited. We’re excited for James Harden and we’re right now in some playoffs. A few different 76ers emojis in the Slack. We also have Hunter jumping in and he says, “Love it. I’m working on a Harden graphic for the next game now,” with a little fire emoji. It’s very exciting. I really enjoy working in the midst of so many graphic designers because that’s a skill that I haven’t witnessed a lot just like with people that I know. When they’re able to just be like, “This looks like a very professional thing that someone bought on a website,” I’m like, “Holy crap.” It’s just a great skill to be able to have, and it looks so cool.
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Collin:
I agree. I agree.
Liza:
Thank you.
Collin:
Alright. So, next up from Bill. We have, “When you’re all alone in a Google Meet,” and he linked off to a video with “Alone at a Drive-in” from Grease.
Liza:
Thanks, Bill.
Collin:
There is a reply at the end from Marty where he says, “I am only just now realizing we’ve had a distinct lack of Grease in this channel.
Liza:
Grease with a capital G. We have plenty of lowercase G grease in the channel. I believe there’s a Grease emoji. I won’t check it right now, but that is true. I kind of want to blame that on Bill. How familiar are you with Grease?
Collin:
Fun fact: I’ve never seen Grease the film, but I’ve seen stage adaptions on multiple occasions.
Liza:
That seems very fun. Yeah, I’m wondering—it’d be interesting. You tell me.
Collin:
Yeah. They’re usually pretty low budget. I saw it at a local theater many moons ago. I saw it, I think, maybe once at Rutgers University. Then I saw it in high school from our rival high school. All three times were interesting. It’s really interesting, the budget. How the high school budget is like cardboard and then the college budget’s like maybe a little bit of construction. Then, like, the community theater is definitely like a stronger construction emphasis with, like, the fake car and everything.
Liza:
Oh, really?
Collin:
Now that I think about it, I think I might’ve seen a stage adaption in a television show at one point too, but I can’t remember the show. I digress.
Liza:
They did. This is one of the films where they did one of those live action adaptions somewhat recently. I believe the actor Aaron—last name starts with a T, but has a V right after it, and I don’t know how to pronounce that—I think, was the Danny from it. I’ve seen Grease one time. I did not—also, it was a much different time, but I did not have a similar high school experience to the people in Grease. They’re like full-blown adults and they were wearing leather and stuff. I was just like, “Oh, wow. They’re smoking and they’re maybe getting pregnant.” Spoiler alert. Stuff like that. I’m like, “Wow. This isn’t about high school at all.” So, yeah. I’d have to put a poll in there and be like, “If we’re rating, how many of you have seen Grease? How many of you have seen Annihilation? How many of you have seen Mamma Mia!?” It’d be interesting to see that breakdown. I can take a note right here to just add a little bit more capital G Grease to the Slack. That’s the word.
[00:27:10]
Collin:
Get right on that.
Liza:
Yeah.
Collin:
OK. So, our next one. Starting with Marty. Did you want to do this one?
Liza:
Sure. He says, “Colleagues, like me, I’m sure your internet viewing habits have changed since accessibility principles have entered your consciousness. So, my question of the day is, what are some of the most common or egregious mistakes you find yourself noticing while surfing the net or cruising the information superhighway?”
Collin:
Alright. Getting into the [inaudible 00:27:41] space. The first response is probably the one I would’ve went with, and that is color and text contrast. It’s terrible out there. Really bad.
Liza:
Yeah, I will second that. Devin jumped right in there with that answer, and it is something that’s very easy to notice without any assistive tech, without a screen reader or using your tab key. It’s just basic everywhere color things. Yes, it’s one of those things that once you learn about it, it is very hard to not notice it. So, yeah. A lot of great resources out there for you to check color contrast. Also, really helpful—not even surfing the web. I’m going to bring in an IRL, a real-life example. There have been some elections—not recently, but earlier in the pandemic—going on nationwide or also locally. There is someone in my area who had a sign—with a political sign you see on someone’s lawn. It had a white background, and their first name was in yellow, and their last name was in blue. The blue, perfectly good to read, but you could not see that. From far away, you couldn’t even tell there was a name on there. It’s definitely a great thing to be thinking about even if you’re not a web person. Don’t learn about text contrast unless you’re ready to start seeing it everywhere because it will be there.
Collin:
Jarring, truly.
Liza:
I will read this next one because I believe I’m the one who wrote it.
Collin:
It’s the other Liza.
Liza:
It’s the other Liza that keeps writing stuff. Again, there’s an overlay over my little screen. I would say—you have to read the first one to me because I can’t read my first sentence. I’ll read you the second part of it. It said, “Bad link text,” and I’ll tell you what’s bad about that, is that if someone is using a screen reader and they’re just navigating through the links—they’re not looking at the other stuff—they might not have enough knowledge to know where that link is going or what it’s going to do if your link text isn’t complete or said something too generic. Also, something that’s affecting me right now as we make this video, navigation/chat/search. Floating elements covering important content on the screen. Content on the screen. Right now, that’s happening in Slack. I’ll call them out right now. Not a sponsor in this video. Yeah, when you’re looking at images, they have kind of a helpful left and right arrow on each side that’s over the image, but it just covers up content. If I try to click on the image, it, like, close. They’ll be hearing from my lawyer shortly. What did the first part say, Collin, since you hopefully have an unobstructed view of that?
[00:30:30]
Collin:
Images of textual content.
Liza:
Yes. True. If you’ve got some text there, don’t just put an image of it because no one knows what that means. It’s just like the name of the image unless you give it alt text. But what’s even easier than giving something alt text, just making it clickable. Why have text to begin with? That’s my little rant. Who else had something to say about this, Collin?
Collin:
Tamman cofounder and CEO, Jeff. He said, “I agree with Devin. Bad text contrast jumps out at me every time now. As soon as I see it, I’m like, ‘That’s not compliant.’ I can’t even read that.” Yeah, nailed it.
Liza:
Definitely nailed it. Great move on Jeff’s part. Agreeing with Devin and then specifically not agreeing with me even though I gave three really good salient points. Yeah. Even the CEO who’s like—his head’s so in all the money. You guys, he doesn’t even care. He knows. Yeah, it’s not very usable when you can’t see the text you’re reading. Brandon followed that up. He says, “I’m surprised how established brands still use tiny font sizes or even buttons that are images.” Then he includes a parenthesis. He says, “Amazon comes to mind for both of those, and for having a horrible mobile experience in general.” Close parenthesis. Yes, I’ll agree with him there. A lot of things that we used to view on a desktop, now we’re viewing maybe mobile-y. If folks don’t do the required work to get their context ready for mobile viewing, a lot of times the font is very small. You can just see, especially if you’re trying to click on a certain part of it. On a mobile screen where this is your pointer, you just want to usually have bigger things so that the kind of click area is large enough for two different fingers to not touch them at the same time. What are your thoughts on that, Collin? Big brands like Amazon, what’s going on there?
Collin:
That’s entirely a video, but I will say, if you want to hear me talk about brands, you should check out our dark patterns YouTube video series where I go through dark patterns on the web and call a lot of people out. Because those exist, I’m not going to spend the next two hours ranting and raving like I know that I could.
[00:33:00]
Liza:
Appreciate it. Definitely a good preview. Dark patterns are everywhere. You’re experiencing them every day when you try to unsubscribe from certain mailing lists and stuff like that. Check it out if you haven’t.
Collin:
Yep. It’s important to note that dark patterns aren’t just dark patterns. They’re also often accessibility issues. Alright, moving on. From Bill, “Forward acting buttons that are colored red or grey. I’m looking at you Delta Airlines.” There we go. There’s some more brand shaming.
Liza:
That is Bill again. You may just not even have to be told that’s a comment from him. Maybe you can tell. Yeah, a lot of times we don’t just want to use color to have meaning, to convey some sort of meaning. But when you are trying to convey, “Hey, go next. Hey, let’s progress forward in this process,” and you have something grey or red, which we usually see more on like an inactive button or maybe like a go back. Yeah. Good to think about color and all the things that it means, even when you’re using it to be like a secondary meaning for something. Great point. Finally, other cofounder of Tamman, Michael. He says, “Headings, man. Headings. Missing—dot, dot, dot—inconsistent styles—dot, dot, dot—ambiguous language—dot, dot, dot—duplication. Just headings, period.” I think he’s kind of speaking for all of us and most of us there. I specifically work in document accessibility. Headings are so much. It’s how you navigate, how you get to the part of the document you want to get to, how you can kind of scan and you don’t have to read everything just to get to this section on instructions of how to, like, upload a new whatever somewhere. You have any headings feelings specifically?
Collin:
Yeah. I am totally with Mike. It’s funny because, like, I heard this in his voice. He is so excellent at blending his typed voice and his speaking voice because I heard that in pure Mike. Yeah, it’s really frustrating. It’s one of those things that I feel like a lot of people don’t really think about when designing a document or a webpage. They don’t really realize how important that is for screen readers and other assistive tech. It can really make something super incomprehensible very quickly.
Liza:
Agreed. All agreed. A lot to say on that, but we will move on to—
Collin:
Our final post.
[00:35:45]
Liza:
Final post. From Martin. He says—oh, God. Again, the overlapping of this. OK, question of the day. March madness, baby. (In Dick Vitali’s voice) Which women and men’s b-ball teams are going to win this year? I didn’t have a lot of things that immediately came to my mind except teams I knew specifically weren’t going to win. What about you?
Collin:
Sports. I think the best way I could sum up—my feelings have already been said by Bill, who responded, “Go birds.” Which I think is American soccer.
Liza:
I think I’ve heard that.
Collin:
Supposed to make people mad. That was supposed to be a mean one.
Liza:
The bird is a very aggressive animal. A lot of teams are named after them. Please, be wary. Be wary among our aviary friends. There were two little Slack emoji responses to Bill’s, “Go birds.” I don’t even know what they are. One of them is just the face that’s like the tiny mouth. It’s got rosy cheeks like this because it’s, like, really into the birds, I guess. The other one, which is just a man face palming like this. It looks a little bit like Bill. It’s got a little blue shirt, his signature platinum blonde hair. Then Emma, another b-ball fan—I know this personally—she replies with a sweet image entitled “Shrug.” I’m guessing that was probably a GIF. It is one Jerry Seinfeld next to Elaine Benes and they’re eating chips in g Jerry’s couch. They’re just kind of like—just like yeah. That has also a few Slack emojis attached to it of people relating. We’ve got Charles, who’s really into the 76ers. We’ve got a few other people. Someone said grizzlies one time or something. I don’t even know. I remember who that person is. But yeah, most of the people are, like, down to eat chips on the couch, I think.
Collin:
Yeah. I think going forward, it might be best to hire a sports correspondent.
Liza:
We’re lacking.
Collin:
Yeah.
Liza:
Clearly, a big hole.
Collin:
Severely. Alright, well this has been fun seeing what everybody’s been up to. This was it for March. However, we will be coming back to you with a video for April probably filled with a lot more general content as the Oscars have passed.
Liza:
We gotcha.
Collin:
Thanks for listening to us give you a little window into what the workplace is like here at Tamman.
Liza:
Thanks, y’all. Hope you enjoy.
Collin:
Alrighty. Catch you later.
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